we saw obviously bp could not contain it in the gulf coast. is there any chance that shell can contain it in the middle of the arctic? >> there is a chance. if everything goes according to plan and all the equipment works as envisioned, and all the individuals exercise prudent judgment, if all the stars are in line, there is a chance that a blowout could be quickly stopped and/or contained at the source. but the probability is that it would not. that is a risk that a number of us, including the those along the north coast of alaska are worried about, and we should be. shell says they have good and well-designed, integrity capping stack containing, oil spill response equipment. all of that is fine if it works. you just see in the testing as in the lead up to this piece the containment failed entirely. the oil spill response suffered a failure. the drilling of the wells had a stack fire. they had a tank that are almost grounded. and all sorts of safety problems. they've had problem after problem after problem and even the most simple contingency